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  Hell or no hell

  by never a jw in

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  about a year ago i had an exchange of emails with an elder of a congregation where all my jw relatives attend.

  i asked him all kinds of questions regarding blood, 607, shunning, evolution, higher education.

  as anticipated, he either had no answer or provided an evasive one.

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  never a jw

  Thanks transhuman,

  The moment I saw Leolaia in the links you provided I knew I would get great answers to my questions.
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  I need some urgent advice, please!!

  by alonein321 in

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  here's my story.

  i'm 24 years old and i live in brazil.

  i'm a 3rd gen born-in jw and all close relatives in the borg (parents, grandparents, uncles, wife, inlaws) except my little sister (she's 16 and didnt buy jw doctrine).

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  never a jw

  Welcome!

  It all comes down to how much love your wife. i am not saying you should love her very much. It's your life and it's your wife. Your patience, caution, dilligence and dedication to preserving this relationship should be commensurate to your love for your wife.
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  Hell or no hell

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  about a year ago i had an exchange of emails with an elder of a congregation where all my jw relatives attend.

  i asked him all kinds of questions regarding blood, 607, shunning, evolution, higher education.

  as anticipated, he either had no answer or provided an evasive one.

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  never a jw

  I prepared an answer for everyone, but towards the end I decided to correct something by pressing the left arrow to go to the part needing correction. Damn it, I ended up in another website that talks about big cats. I try to come back to my comment and it was GONE. I hate when that happens, especially considering that I only used four fingers to type. I will prepare something later again.

  Thanks everyone.

  I just want to point out that my interest is mainly to determine what is the most possible meaning that the writers of the Bible ascribed to the 4 words that are used to refer to the afterlife.
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  Hell or no hell

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  about a year ago i had an exchange of emails with an elder of a congregation where all my jw relatives attend.

  i asked him all kinds of questions regarding blood, 607, shunning, evolution, higher education.

  as anticipated, he either had no answer or provided an evasive one.

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  Thank you guys. My interest is both scholarly and theological. I get the feeling that, according to a literal reading of the Bible, many of its writers meant to say that they believed in a literal place of torment for the wicked. There are different words for the final destination after life:

  Hades

  Sheol

  Gehena

  Tartarus

  Do all mean a metaphoric way of saying death as explained by JW theology, or is there room for a different interpretation?
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  Hell or no hell

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  about a year ago i had an exchange of emails with an elder of a congregation where all my jw relatives attend.

  i asked him all kinds of questions regarding blood, 607, shunning, evolution, higher education.

  as anticipated, he either had no answer or provided an evasive one.

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  never a jw

  About a year ago I had an exchange of emails with an elder of a congregation where all my JW relatives attend. I asked him all kinds of questions regarding blood, 607, shunning, evolution, higher education. As anticipated, he either had no answer or provided an evasive one. Interestingly, in one of his non sequiturs he proudly said that it was JW's who had properly interpreted that there was no hell. I believed also he mentioned trinity, but quite interestingly he never made any reference to the Cross (having some doubts maybe)

  Back to the main topic, from my readings of the Bible it seems that there are multiple references to a fiery place in the NT and the OT. Therefore, according to the Bible, there is hell and JW's may have it wrong again.

  What do the Bible scholars in this site have to say. Please help.
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  Post 607: Reject 607 BC if You TRULY Trust the Bible!!!

  by Londo111 in

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  therefore, if the 70 years period is for the destruction of jerusalem and exile at babylon:.

  if zedekiah had not rebelled against babylon, had he surrendered during the final siege that lasted two and a half years, then the destruction of jerusalem and the deportation need not have happened.

  then in the jubilee year, they were set free and their hereditary land was returned to them.

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  If 1914 was, and still is, so reliable for JW's, what was the point of Rutherford concocting 1925, or Freddie concocting 1975, both predictions completely unrelated to any chronology having to do with the Gentile Times. Weren't they, by their actions, implying: "we don't trust your 1914 prophecy Jehovah" or simply put "we don't believe you Jehovah"
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  Being an Atheist Is Bad For Your Health

  by Space Madness in

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  i stopped believing in god in july 2013. in the first 3 months or so i felt liberated and relieved that i can live my life anyway i wanted without worrying about an invisible being watching my every move.

  i also felt slightly superior that i was able to figure out that god isn't real while the majority of mankind continued to be fooled.

  atfer the feelings of excitment statrted to wear off, i started to become more depressed and empty.

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  never a jw

  You sound like the kind of guy who needs religion to cope. Reality is not good for you.

  As many others have mentioned, it seems that your data is not reliable. It seems that you are using correlation, not causation, as a way to infer that atheists are more depressed, angry and suicidal than religious people. Maybe, maybe not. Your data definitely provides no help to get a clear answer. I would question the sources of the study and their methods.

  Overall, non-religious people are making greater contributions to advance our knowledge of science so we can overcome the challenges facing human kind (population, limited resources, contamination, diseases, etc). In this regard religious people, especially those fundamentalists and cultic groups, are just a drag.
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  New Watchtower Article: "Morals Without God?"

  by cognisonance in

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  ...or rather what you wouldn't find in a watchtower .

  morals without god (new york times article).

  can we envision a world without god?

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  never a jw

  Man created God, God created morals. Therefore man created morals through God. The man who first thought of God as a way to create morality to control other people deserves a great deal of credit. Cheapest and most effective way to lead and control.
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  BOE Letter: We want to suck three hours out of your life

  by pixel in

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  to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: branch visit in november 2014 .

  dear brothers: .

  on february 11, 2014, the bethel family was excited to learn that a branch visit is sched- uled for the united states.

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  never a jw

  Rebel 8,

  Carl Sagan seemed to disagree with you regarding the GB skills

  Doctrines that make no predictions are less compelling than those which make correct predictions; they are in turn more successful than doctrines that make false predictions.

  But not always. One prominent American religion [Jehovah's Witnesses, of course] confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and -- while the events of that year were certainly of some importance -- the world does not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended. There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, "Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014.' A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvenienced in any way." But they did not. They could have said, "Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth." But they did not. Instead, they did something much more ingenious.

  They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration were needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry.
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  Why I feel that worshiping "God" is a waste of time...

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  have you ever had a so-called friend who never seemed to be around when you really needed his active, participatory help, but was always good enough to show up after the fact, to lend you his "support" after the event?.

  maybe he failed to show up when you needed to move furniture.

  did he show up afterward, and praise you for the ability to get it done without his help?

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  never a jw

  There's something awesome about life, the macrocosmos, the microcosmos, consciousness. There are lots of mysteries that we will uncover in the future, but many that we will not. What seems quite obvious though, God or no God, there's no divine force intervening in human affairs. And that's the way I like it.